Privacy Policy. I learned from Roy Taylor that Mr. Hobbs was bisexual. The children never returned home. Would they have admitted there were car tracks found and helped the defense win their case? My theory is that when Stevie saw Terry there, he was scared, very scared. He died before he was finished being tied up. Terry Hobbs was working for the Memphis Ice Cream Company. During a special presentation at CrimeCon 2022 Las Vegas, former New York State prosecutor Jim Clemente joined Truth & Justice podcast host, Bob Ruff, and investigative journalist, George Jared, to take a deep dive into a conversation Jared previously had with Terry Hobbs. My suspicion is that LGs parents knew he participated in this crime ( I will touch more on this later) and Narlene, being LGs aunt, probably had some limited knowledge of his participation, too. AND I SAID I DONT KNOW ILL BE GLAD TO GO GET HIM IF YOU THINK IT WILL HELP, IF YOU TALK TO HIM, AND HE SAID I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT. These boards were right next to the clubhouse which means that when the boys were caught, they most likely would have been caught very close to where these boards lay, easily seen to the naked eye. The two teens jumped in the truck with the men, stopped by Billys home and bought the weed and then drove around the back streets of West Memphis, smoking and drinking whiskey. If anyone might know where the boys were going or what their plans had been for that day, it would most likely have been Aaron. Terry admitted himself that he whipped Stevie and by Amandas own account, Terry was a violent man who left welts and bruises on her when he hit her. I believe it was because Stevie was hit repeatedly on the left side of the face by LG. ~It appears the boys *were* punched.. at least a little bit. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. The four men beat the boys, tied them up and threw them and their clothes into the ditch of water. As CrimeOnline previously reported, Damien Echols, along with friends Jason Baldwin and Jesse Misskelly, were convicted of murder in 1994, in connection with the murders of Chris Byers, Michael Moore, and Steven. Peretti believed that and the Echols defense team, although claiming that Chris must have drowned, all admitted that Chris died while he was being tied up. We can assume this because of the 6:00/6:30 sighting from the service road. They lived only a few blocks from each other after all and LG already had a suspicious relationship with an older man. Apparently, the medical examiner stated that the fine scratches on Stevies penis are similar to those from children who have sexually abused, i.e: given oral sex. In both Billy and Bennies statements, i.e. Apparently, David initially hit Chris in the face and head with his fists until Terry came over and ordered the boys to be stripped. When Stevie was pulled from the water, the left side of his face was terribly mangled. The question is, why? Had LG engaged in sexual activity with Hobbs and Jacoby prior to this day? The reason for this is because LG lived very close to both the Byers and the Moores. At this time, I was afraid that Terry would rape, harm or even kill me. Was it because he was running around frantically trying to cover up for the crime? Additionally, his wounds later attracted turtles to further bite his face, making his injuries more severe. And, Ill tell you something, I would take up for my kids when Ive known that they have done something, cause aint no telling what they would do. But if Chris was merely bitten and stabbed, and did not actually have his penis or scrotum cut off, as was once believed, this would have provided an injury severe enough to have killed him (ie: bled out) while also allowing turtles and attracting turtles, in fact, to make the final injury after death. He continued to say that it was known in the drug world that Terry was gay or bisexual and that he preferred sex with young boys. The question about Terry having a drug dealer name Ray could also possibly be significant. I still think about it regularly. Pam begins making dinner and getting ready for work (source). My question is this: If you are of the opinion that the WM3 are guilty, how can you be sure? After they wrestled for a bit, Terry told them to stop and called them over to drink and/or smoke more. And even if he did work the day of the 5th, its the late afternoon/night that is important. I think we have the answer now; Stevie and Chris appeared to have been tortured because they were the ones who were conscious. She was completely off in her description of the way they looked and the way they were dressed. As he leaned over Michael and removed his clothes, a hair from Terrys head or mustache fell onto Michaels body. Here is a timeline of how events may have unfolded that day. He dropped by the other parents home at the first chance he got, made an appearance and a statement that implied hed been out looking for the kids. I believe this somehow got back to Narlene, who began to feel that it was her duty that justice be served. When he was finished with that, I believe he then turned to Stevie. How about his fucking alibi, oh wait, the dudehe claimed him as an alibi thinks he did it. Allegedly, Terry Hobbs told the boys he was going to teach them a lesson. Its intriguing, however, that Buddys statements were, He just held them while the others killed them, And, He hit a couple in the back of the head. Was Buddy really speaking of his own participation in the murders? AARON: IT WAS, WHEN EVER WE GOT OUT OF SCHOOL WE WENT THERE ABOUT FOUR, AARON: AND THEY NEVER GOT THERE BEFORE WE DID. He was probably only 5 or 10 feet from the other boys, not 25, as some people believe and 2. CHRISTY, I WAS TALKING TO A GIRL NAMED CHRISTY AND SHE TOLD ME THAT SHE THOUGHT THEY HAD FOUND ONE OF THE BODIES. Basically, the truth was overshadowed by stories of cults and devil worshipping put into Aarons head by his mother and the West Memphis detectives, Bryn Ridge and Gary Gitchell. Michael was later stripped, perhaps so he would not stand out. For years, the stepfather of one of the three children killed in West Memphis, Arkansas, has maintained his innocence, despite public outcry to investigate him. According to Billy Stewarts statement, he believes that at this time some sexual activity occurred between the men and two teens. Right around 8:40, I believe that David would have walked or driven home, depending on who was driving that night and Terry and LG would have gotten into Pam and Terrys small, white Toyota. He believed that one of the men told the others what to do, because they always did what he said. 9 Q. The two men were looking for weed and asked the boys if they knew where to find some, or in other words, they wanted to know which drug dealer was currently holding. Also, he may have searched for the boys in the woods around 5pm when he dropped Pam off at work, also when Terry was unaccounted for. Not only are their alibis remarkably different, they actually contradict and conflict with each other. If Terry wanted things to turn sexual, his predatory mind would have thought of ways to lead things in that direction. This case is so terrifying. When they arrived in the woods, Terry Hobbs told the boys to wrestle. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. What purpose would there be to strip the boys naked? Additionally, a bite on the face during murders/attacks is not only common in homosexual attacks, like a bite to the scrotum is, but it also common in Battered Child Syndrome. We know from multiple sightings, including Michaels mother, that the three boys were on two bikes riding on 14th, headed to Goodwin St. at 6pm. When police interviewed Buddys cousin, she recalled that her aunt said that Buddy left to go see Jessie sometime before the murders occurred but did not return till the next day. After the murders of the three boys, the general understanding by the public was that Chris had been emasculated and very meticulously had had the skin removed from his penis. AH I SAID ARRON YOU KNOW THAT THEY TOOK THEIR CLOTHES OFF WHY DIDNT YOU LEAVE? Perhaps Stevie tried to sneak away. On Nov. 6 police in Memphis responded to a call that someone had been shot at 4460 Kerwin St., the home of Pamela and Terry Hobbs. VICKIE: HE STAYED. Also, although this may seem insignificant, Anthony Hollingsworth, LGs cousin, made a statement in May of 1993 that LG acts like he is gay. "[4], In November of 1994, more than a year after the murders of the three children in West Memphis, Hobbs again experienced trouble with the law. In 2011, after 18 years in prison, the three innocent men were released on an Alford Plea. According to Gary Gitchell, there was rainfall on at least one or two of those nights. These men had no reason to lie or even tell their story, if not for justice. After Terrys attack on Michael, I believe Terry left him on the ground unconscious. This is so hugely significant and yet lost on so many. And, it had to have been between 5:30 and 6:00 because Chris abandoned his skateboard by 6:00 and joined Stevie on his bicycle. Meaning to me that he was the third one caught). He had a history of crime and domestic violence, and he shot his brother-in-law, allegedly in self-defense. As he jumped up from the fall, he grabbed Chris and apparently hit him with force as well. http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/story/21810828/new-allegations-surface-in-the-west-memphis-3-murders. Anyone who has owned a dog, knows how dogs will lick blood clean in a matter of minutes. A year or so after Buddy admitted to Bennie of his involvement, he also allegedly confessed to Billy Stewart and described to him what happened. What would allegedly happen next is one of the greatest indicators that the statements made by Billy and Bennie are in fact true. The evidence that supports this theory is in the injury to Steve Branchs face and back of the head. He isn't going to sway me to their innocence because I've done my own research outside of his book. The truth of what really occurred on May 5th, 1993 has not been completely solved and no suspects have been arrested. They believed something inappropriate may be going on between the two, who practically lived together. Ok, pull down his pants, etc. At the end of the conversation LG apparently told Narlene, Dont put yourself in that kind of trouble and Narlene says, Well, Im going to take care of LG. To me, that means that she is willing to lie to help protect LG. Wouldn't a normal person say "embarrassed", maybe? This means that the boys had most likely arrived to the Blue Beacon Woods before the four men did, crossing over from the west side of the drainage ditch to the east side of the drainage ditch, on a log that lay across the ditch at the south end. The first most essential piece of evidence came from Stevie, Michael and Chris other best friend, Aaron Hutchinson. At the same time, she felt she must lie to protect her nephew, as she may have been told that his participation was very small. What reasons could there possibly be for not being honest about the night a horrific murder of children took place? VICKIE: THE DEAD END ON MCAULEYRIDGE: ON MCAULEY BYVICKIE: BY THE APARTMENTSRIDGE: OKAY, ALRIGHT. Terry Hobbs, the stepfather of another one of the murdered boys. In the second statement, Narlene describes to police a conversation she had with LG outside of the police station right before a police interview. Which means hecouldhave been walking with Buddy right at the time Terry and David would have shown up. AARON: IT SMELLED LIKE, IT SMELLED LIKE A CIGARETTE JUST GETTING LILT BUT IT WAS A DIFFERENT KIND, AARON: THEY UM, THEY WENT DOWN TO WATCH THOSE MEN AND. In that letter is a story about four men going to the woods, smoking marijuana and possibly engaging in sexual activity. thirty minutes to clean up the crime scene before it got dark. RIDGE: OKAY, ALRIGHT. I think its open to interpretation. UM, AND I WENT UP AND TALKED TO MS. MOORE AND SHE GOT AARON OUT OF CLASS. What they discovered was a very organized, catalogued and intact body of evidence, a group working on the case previously wrote. I believe the clubhouse was mainly a concealed spot where the boys played. According to both Billy and Bennies statements, the four men pulled up to the trailer, bought a small amount of marijuana and left. Is it just a coincidence that Buddy mentions that the boys were hit on the back of the head, and that, unknown to the public, all three were in fact hit in the back of the head? I do believe that some of the injuries on Stevies penis came from himself, from excessive masturbatory play. The Blue Beacon Woods was connected to the Robin Hood Hills which was the last place the three boys had been spotted on the night of the 5th. (1, 2, 3) This means that not only did Narlene lie repeatedly to police and in court, but she convinced her two children to lie under oath as well. If you're into dick as an adult, you're gonna find your community. One of the 8-year-olds is Hobbs' stepson, Stevie Branch. First of all, she claims that her husband, her three children and her sons girlfriend were all in the car that night and two of her children even testified in court about the sighting. Sometime around 2pm the day of the 6th, Stevie, Michael and Chris were found murdered in a drainage ditch filled with water in the Blue Beacon Woods. I wonder if Michael and Chris knew that one of the men was Stevies stepdad and that is the reason they never told Stevie what they saw in those woods. If the mark above Stevies eye truly is a bitemark that is also powerful evidence in support of the Bennie/Billy statements. I TOOK AARON TO TODD AND DANAS HOUSE AND UM, TODD ASKED AARON IF HE MIGHT KNOW DID CHRIS OR MICHAEL SAY ANYTHING TO HIM, TO THE EFFECT WHERE THEY MIGHT BE. Cookie Notice I learned about this case 3 years ago. Not only ONE victim but THREE. What are the chances that boys would act out the way homosexual men have sex, in addition to one of them saying they watched homosexual men have sex, and it not be true? New DNA testing by the defense shows that none of the genetic material recovered from the murder scene links Echols, Baldwin, or Misskelley to the scene. I think its likely that Terry took the board with him as well to dispose of later or had it thrown in the bayou. Terry Hobbs was a violent man, this is proven and well documented, and the way Douglass pictures it, he likely wanted to punish or humiliate one or all of the boys and it went too far, leading him to murder them so they wouldn't be able to tell anyone. My feeling is that LG, thinking of a close and safe spot where he could go, would have asked Terry to drop him off at the Laundromat, less than a mile away from Terrys house. I allege that the two perpetrators, Jacoby and Hobbs, entered the water and began to submerge the boys deep in the mud in order to keep them from floating. I dont know what L. G. is capable of, and I am not saying that he would do it, and I am not saying that he wouldnt, but I know Damian. I met Terry Hobbs through a mutual friend, Roy Taylor. With what we know about Stevie and how much he feared Terry, it seems impossible that Stevie would have been the child who kicked Terry. 4:00 Chris leaves leaves Pams house to meet up with Stevie and Michael who are out riding their bikes in the neighborhood. And, strangely enough, LGs alleged confession also show that the first boy (Michael) was hit with force two or three times, supporting both the autopsy and what is seen from the autopsy photos. Have you ever have you ever sexuallypropositioned David Jacoby? They are also one of very few people,who hadfamily memberswho suspected that they were involved and actually contacted police as a result of those suspicions. It makes absolutely no sense that she would have brought five people along with her at almost 10pm at night to pick someone up. The day after the boys went missing before they were even found, Michael Moore's parents asked Aaron's mother, Vickie Hutchinson, if Aaron could be removed from school to help find the boys. But again, why would turtles only be drawn to the left side of Stevies face and none of the other boys faces? After the murders occurred, rumors circulated that Buddy may have been involved. The three men ran after the boys, caught them and dragged them back to Terry. In the autopsy reports, it, As noted earlier, the autopsies revealed that Michael was quickly incapacitated with a few defensive wounds to the hands, which implied to the Medical Examiner that Michael. I have questions. CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHERE THE CLUB IS?AARON: ITS, ITS IN UH, ITS IN THOSE WOODS WHERE UH, WHERE THAT STOP SIGN IS AND ITSRIDGE: IS THE WOODS HAVE THEY GOT A NAME THEY CALL THEM ROBIN HOOD IS THAT RIGHT?AARON: UH-HUH (YES)RIDGE: IT IS OKAY, YOUVE BEEN DOWN THERE BEFORE?AARON: YES SIRRIDGE: DO YOU GO DOWN THERE A LOT?AARON: (inaudible)RIDGE: OKAY, WHEN YOU WENT DOWN THERE WHO ALL WENT WITH YOU MOST THE TIME?AARON: MICHAEL AND CHRISRIDGE: OKAY, AND WHAT DID YOU DO WHEN YOU WENT DOWN THERE?AARON: WE PLAYEDRIDGE: OKAY, DID YOU EVERAARON: AND THEN SOMETIMES WE WATCHED THESE MENRIDGE: THESE MEN. If Echols is successful in court, the DNA testing process will likely take months. I admit that when I first read the alleged Buddy/LG confessions I was skeptical. And that alone should give us all pause. LG spent the day of the 5th with his aunt, Narlene. It is clear to many experts that the left side of Stevies face had been bitten by turtles. According to Pams family, Stevie was terrified of Terry. oh boy. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. I also believe the mutilations to Chris Byres was pure turtle predation, as well as Stevie's facial injuries. RIDGE OKAY, DO YOU REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY WHETHER YOU MAY HAVE GONE OVER TO JESSIES ON THAT DATE? After the boys wrestled, the men offered them more marijuana and whiskey. Right as this happened, Terry, who was their neighbor, called to Stevie to come home. If you read Jacobys interview and declaration, they both give Hobbs an alibi and they both make it impossible for Hobbs to have committed the crime without Jacoby having noticed something peculiar about Hobbs. Shortly after this, Terry Hobbs noticed that the three boys were spying on the men. Why was shesosure, in her mind, that Damiens mother was lying about being with him all night? Hobbs, with the help of an author, put all that journaling into a book about the 1993 murders of his stepson Stevie Branch, and Branch's friends Michael Moore and Chris Byers. The West Memphis Three are Damien Echols, Jessie Miskelley, and Jason Baldwin. VICKIE: IT WAS COPSRIDGE: WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT DEAD ON? Is there any other reason why hed admit on national television that he lied? Again, If we believe Billy Stewarts statement, the murders were predicated by a sexual act which could further explain why so many seemingly unnecessary acts occurred. RIDGE: YOU WERE ALWAYS THERE FIRST. SIDEWAYS AND WE GOT IN OUR CLUB HOUSE. 9pm at night looking for a phone number when all he would need to do is call numerous people and he could have gotten it? Years later it was discovered by experts for the defense that a knife had not caused the injuries to Chris penis at all. In fact, the very first place that he and Pam looked before Pam went to work was Michaels house. (Charlotte Bly interview). It means its likely that he never went home. In 2007 it was discovered that a hair that had been found underneath a ligature on Michael Moores nude body, belonged to Terry Hobbs. AARON: I THINK THEY WAS WATCHING THEM MEN LIKE LIKE WE ALWAYS DID, AND THEY THEY GOT CAUGHT, AND THEN THEY NEVER TOLD THE MEN, AND THE MEN SORTA KILLED THEM. These two are pretty clear, I think, especially with one coming from his parents. RIDGE: ONE TIME, WERE THEY, WERE YOU ALL WATCHING THE FIVE MEN DOWN THERE THAT TIME WHEN HE WENT WITH YOU? Why didnt Terry search for Stevie at the Moores? i.e: wrestle. A Calhoun County man has been missing for weeks now, leaving his family searching for answers. The boards were a combination of boards that had been nailed together as well as a pile of loose boards on the ground. A narcissistic ego injury (Stevie talking back or what the fuck ever - remember the neighbor who saw Terry and Stevie together for the last time?) I've gone down this rabbit hole time and time again. According to Fox 13 Memphis, Benca previously said the evidence was intact and they plan to move ahead and test this evidenceusing the latest DNA technology available to hopefully identify the real killer(s) of the three children in 1993 and exonerate Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin, and Jesse Misskelley.. He was only 19 years old and this was a hot day in May. fatal accident crown point. A month later three teens, Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin and Jessie Misskelley were arrested for the murders of the three eight year old boys. RIDGE YOU DIDNT GO OVER THERE THAT DAY? NARLENE: She meant the mommy, the daddy and the son,(LG) she said I dont know whats going on over there and she said, they are making me nervous, shes a christian girl, she said and I got out of there, I said yeah, I get bad feelings around them too. Everybody said that Damian, I know that hes suppose to have 666 on his shoes. I believe that Terry intended to further molest and/or harm me because his actions and demeanor indicated that was his goal, but I believe my continued yelling and screaming alarmed him and caused him to run off. The boys were not simply tossed in, but carried down the ditch and methodically pushed deep into the mud so they wouldnt float. Apparently, LG walked in and asked for his cousin Dominis telephone number. If he was correct about the drug dealer, he could have correct about the other allegations. This theory was supported by police who were at the crime scene. Since Jacoby knew that Hobbs was with Pam at 9pm, he clearly meant that Hobbs had left for the two hours that Jacoby had previously claimed they were together. When you look at the evidence as a whole, it is quite clear and truly undeniable what really occurred that tragic day. Lastly, Stevie branch apparently told his cousin that Terry was molesting him and Amanda. VICKIE: I REALLY COULDNT TELL THAT. Those who didnt know the case that well simply believed that Chris entire penis and scrotum had been cut off with a knife. Hobbs may be awful, but nothing accounts for the beating and drowning that took place. VICKIE: UM, WEST MEMPHIS POLICE HAD ALL OF THE AREA ROPED OFF, VICKIE: I WENT TO THE DEAD END IT WAS YOU KNOW. I feel the reason for this was because Bennie knew no one would listen to him as long as someone else was locked up for the crime. Which means that when Natalies lawyers dug into Terry Hobbs past, there were obviously some people who made similar allegations to the ones Billy made 4 years later. I think Michelle died of a broken heart, possibly organ failure due to drug abuse. JMB really did love them even though he had a temper and did admit to corporal punishment. I believe he intended to terrify and threaten them so they would never, ever speak of what they had seen. Buddy told them that Billy Stewart was holding weed at that time. Pam Hobbs, with husband, Terry, hopes people will remember the life . Chris was only spotted on a skateboard up until 6pm. The DNA used for comparison purposes was taken from cigarette butts obtained from an ashtray. VICKIE: ANY TIME MY CHILD DIDNT COME HOME ON TIME THATS WHERE I WOULD LOOK FOR HIMRIDGE: OKAY, YOU HAD BEEN THERE ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS? Essentially, the statements made by Dr. Perretti are not much different than if Pam took her son to a doctor, had him examined and was then told by the doctor that Stevie had injuries related to sexual abuse. He also confirmed that one of the teens, Buddy Lucas, had admitted to his involvement in the murders with the other three men. As they were riding around the street, Terry and David drove by on Barton (Barton would have lead them directly out of the neighborhood, taking them to 7th street which leads up to Lakeshore) and David saw them in the street. Also, the sister who caught Hobbs washing laundry in the middle of the fucking night! With all that in mind, I allege that Terry and Amanda returned home a little after 5pm. NARLENE: He (Lg) said, if you start saying that about Damian, youre going to get in trouble, I said, well, the mommy is up there saying stating that he was, Damian was with her all the time. The kick, along with the humiliation of being spied on, would have made Terry snap because he did not stand for any kind of disobedience. If anyone might know where the boys were going or what their plans had been for that day, it would most likely have been Aaron. http://callahan.8k.com/pdf/de_dnamotion3_30_11.pdf. This gave the men 2 and a half hours to let off some steam and possibly drink and get high. RIDGE: ALRIGHT, AND HES BEEN FOUND THERE BY YOU SEVERAL TIMES? In 2011, the defendants were released from prison by accepting an Alford Plea, which allowed them to maintain their innocence and get out of prison, However, the plea didnt clear their convictions and all three men still have a murder charge on their record, despite their release from prison. 9pm the night of the 5th so we need to theorize what may have happened because he has no alibi. Hobbs, who had previously been under the police scanner for the murders because of inconsistencies in his story, had later been cleared of any wrongdoing but found himself being verbally abused by Byers in front of cameras outside a courtroom. I dont feel it was an actualclubhouse. Which is right in line with why this attack would have occurred.
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